Talk:Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

2014 Lutheran demographic figures

The current demographic tables are obsolete, see https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/05/RLS-08-26-full-report.pdf for demographics and https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2015/11/201.11.03_RLS_II_full_report.pdf for more doctrinal/practical type questions--Epiphyllumlover (talk) 05:54, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Proposed merge of Southwestern Washington Synod (ELCA) into Evangelical Lutheran Church in America

Without SIGCOV (and thus failing NCHURCH and GNG), this should not be a stand-alone article. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 02:13, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

• Weak Oppose: Much like Catholic ecclesiastical jurisdictions, this ECLA territory lacks a vast quantity of SIGCOV. Despite this, it is generally understood–at least among Catholic, Anglican Communion, and larger Orthodox denominations–that they are notable enough to warrant coverage simply by their nature as major divisions of major denominations. The size of the ELCA and this synod seems to warrant encyclopedic coverage, though I agree that general expansion is necessary if it is to be a properly worth article (a task I can undertake if no expert in this field wants to take it on). ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:34, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

  To be honest, in my opinion 28,000 members is really small for a christian organizational division to be presumed notable. The Roman Catholic Diocese of Albacete, for example, is likely to have over 300,000 members. If you could find significant coverage of the synod that'd be greatly appreciated, Pbritti. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 21:42, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

  A._C._Santacruz, I totally agree that 28,000 is relatively small; however, we do have a fairly decent article on the sub-5,000 person Exarchate of Saints Cyril and Methodius of Toronto. I will work this week to uncover relevant coverage of the synod. If none is found, I will support a merge. If you do not hear back from me by Wednesday, consider my search a failure and my support of the merge implicit. ~ Pbritti (talk) 21:48, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

  Good luck in your quest, Pbritti :D A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 21:52, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

  An update, A._C._Santacruz: I have found nothing that would oppose the merge; I think the merge should proceed. ~ Pbritti (talk) 17:13, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

  Pbritti, thanks for your diligence. I'll go ahead then :) It's my first merge IIRC so if you catch any mistakes feel free to tell me :) A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 17:40, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

  A._C._Santacruz lol you're asking the wrong guy for help; the only merges I've done had to get a couple fixes because I can't spell. Good luck! ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:53, 10 March 2022 (UTC)

• Question are you proposing to merge some or all of the rest of the 65 ELCA synods into this article. I note the Roman Catholic Diocese of Juneau had all of 10,000 official Catholics (many of whom were non-active, I think ELCA requires a bit more than baptism to count). --Erp (talk) 22:53, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

  Erp just the Southwestern Washington one. If there is consensus to merge I'll take a look at the rest, but at this point I assume there's at least some of its synods that are independently notable even if the SW WAS one isn't. A. C. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 22:55, 6 March 2022 (UTC)

Comments: It looks like this merge opinion just petered out. I ran across some confusion and left comments at Talk:Lutheranism#Article issues and classification and think dome merging would be beneficial to Wikipedia and it's readers. -- Otr500 (talk) 08:41, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Article issues and classification

This article is listed as having "dated statements" since 2008 and "needing additional references" since 2015, so fails the B-class criteria. Reassess article. -- Otr500 (talk) 08:28, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

@Otr500: Again, agreement on this reassessment. Thanks for going through these. ~ Pbritti (talk) 16:29, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

Worship Section Doesn't Meet Standards

Currently the entire "Worship" section is subpar: it has zero references and many lines (e.g. "Springing from its revered heritage in the Lutheran chorale, the musical life of ELCA congregations is just as diverse as its worship.") read like they were taken from a brochure. 2600:1700:67A8:230:C50D:737E:2F60:1BD1 (talk) 06:28, 8 January 2025 (UTC)